68 points iamdelirium 2 hours ago 12 comments

iamdelirium 2 hours ago | parent

Looks like Google announced their own Jev inspired API and model

dude250711 49 minutes ago | parent

It was a hot topic 2 months ago.

waximabbax 1 hour ago | parent

Its bit more expensive than other other Decision Models in the same lane.

However, it can accept Audio and Video as input as well and for those specific cases it can be extremely useful.

florkbork 43 minutes ago | parent

Meanwhile, they are suffocating Jules today (https://killedbygoogle.com/) with a metaphorical pillow to the face and no migration path mapped out for casual users apart from "use antigravity" in a 1 line high banner; after about a year of existence.

It seems unlikely this will be around in 6 months at this rate.

Catloafdev 28 minutes ago | parent

That doesn't make any sense, this is a Jev competitor and a model release, like their Carbon and Argon models. It won't simply be 'killed' like apps might without something to succeed it.

kasperset 23 minutes ago | parent

Barring Search, Gmail, and YouTube I am really wary of using anything from Google now.

IncreasePosts 36 minutes ago | parent

It took OpenAI 2 weeks after Jev to release a decision end point, and now google does it 2 months later. Why such a difference? Bureaucracy? Quality control?

eminence32 24 minutes ago | parent

I'm sort of surprised it took Jev for everyone to realize "oh yeah, this is a useful thing that we should have in our product portfolio".

But maybe this is one of those things that's only obvious in retrospect? I'm sure people were trying something similar years ago with grammar-constrained outputs (for example to only output a simple json structure), but you can't get probabilities out of the model that way. Which makes me wonder: how do these models calculate probabilities?

kaycebasques 13 minutes ago | parent

pratzc07 10 minutes ago | parent

So is it over for Jev now that the big boys are in the game