8 points milali 3 hours ago 5 comments

WillAdams 39 minutes ago | parent

For awards, the use of A.I. should be baked into the category descriptions/rules of eligibility up-front, and the organizers should be free to have a contest which is AI-free (in terms of contestants, I'd like to hope bots would always be banned from voting), or a contest which allows it, or separate contest categories for use and non-use.

For my part, I'm late to the game --- I used Google's LLM-enabled notebook to generate some sample DXF files early on, but I mostly hack away and copy-paste from Stackexchange and so forth --- flet.dev hitting 1.0 and offering an online studio did have me buying tokens and ultimately a subscription to make:

https://studio.flet.dev/apps/bicQWc3Aul

but for a long while it wasn't running and I was out of tokens, so I coded up:

https://studio.flet.dev/apps/46tp8GPq9g

while waiting for my next month of tokens to show up by copy-pasting and in a couple of instances asking Copilot about errors.

Currently trying to work out how to get the previews in the first app to look right, maybe adding an optional toolpath preview to the latter, and how to get a larger and more complex version up-and-running with an architecture I can wrap my head around using a toolchain I feel comfortable with (rather than a browser app, my typical development chain is local driven by a .text file: https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview using a Literate Programming system).

sobiolite 33 minutes ago | parent

Reading stuff like this, I mentally recoil from the tone of self-righteous moral outrage. The ethical issues around AI don't seem any different than the rest of modern capitalism. But things like industrialised farming, manufacturing, fossil fuels, chemical production, etc. don't seem to generate anything close to the quasi-religious fervour that hating AI inspires in certain people.

It's difficult to escape the conclusion that the difference is that the harm from those other industries mostly accrues to the poor and the working class, whereas AI is threatening the livelihoods of rich, educated westerners who thought their social status insulated them from economic shocks like this.

adamddev1 13 minutes ago | parent

> LLMs, by definition, can’t make anything thoughtfully, because LLMs have no thoughts. ... apps that feel crafted, that show refinement, that feel intuitive—requires a human developer not only with taste, but with understanding.

Well said, thank you.