YHK - yet another hacker news clone

75 points BrunoBernardino 1 hour ago 41 comments

I've used https://european-alternatives.eu in the past but I've found it impossible to submit anything there (I've got one submission "Waiting for Review" since July 2025), and I haven't really seen updates in categories/apps for at least 6 months, which is, at a minimum, strange.

I've also reached out to the owner a couple of times (via chat and via email) over the last year and never got a reply.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, is there any other kind of listing you look for EU alternatives to US software/hardware?

Thanks!

EDIT: My motivations are my own, this isn't supposed to be a political or social commentary of any kind. I happen to prefer to spend money in "local companies" whenever possible, and I'm in the EU.

sbkg0002 1 hour ago | parent

https://www.eucloudcost.com/providers/

BrunoBernardino 28 minutes ago | parent

While it's limited to cloud (AWS-related) providers, TIL about this, thanks!

dmitrygr 1 hour ago | parent

> haven't really seen updates in categories/apps for at least 6 months

It is going through GDPR review, then permitting, and then a few other country-specific reviews. Check back in 6-11 years.

jauco 1 hour ago | parent

I generally just search around.

Btw: if you are interested in this, note that it often isn’t clear cut where a company is from.

For example: https://european-alternatives.eu/product/zitadel bills itself as a swiss company, and it might technically be one, but it looks very much like a general SF startup to me (business address in sf, all investors are US based)

ffo 1 hour ago | parent

Zitadel CEO here :-)

Zitadel started in Switzerland under the name CAOS AG and has still a lot of its operations in Europe. For our US go to market strategy we incorporated Zitadel Inc. which operates out of SF where I also tend to be.

Happy to share more if interested

jauco 1 hour ago | parent

Thanks for the clarification! Does the AG still exist?

And I think this speaks to my point that it isn’t a simple yes/no question :)

ffo 36 minutes ago | parent

It absolutly does https://zefix.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/1391256 :-)

The matter is definitely more complex than yes and no... my general stand has been that jurisdiction matters a lot when you store and process data from customers, like many cloud services do. iIt matters less if you can take a software and self-host it.

BrunoBernardino 35 minutes ago | parent

Great point, including the CEO reply. I know it's not simple/easy/binary, which is why having a starting list is incredibly helpful! I also search around a lot in other lists, like awesome privacy [1] and awesome self-hosted [2].

[1]: https://github.com/lissy93/awesome-privacy

[2]: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

sam_lowry_ 1 hour ago | parent

Amazon, Google and Microsoft all have now Digital Sovereignty positions and crooks of all kinds fill the niches.

Nothing unusual here.

Temporary_31337 59 minutes ago | parent

Curious about the motivation. The current conflict in Iran once again reminds us of how it;s all intertwined. The blockade of Strait of Hormuz means helium shortages means no chip production, means your EU based alternative is not getting chips so you really don't have an alternative unless you can somehow magically wish a whole fairly alternative supply chain of EU based rare minerals, fabs, nvidias etc

lwansbrough 55 minutes ago | parent

1 step at a time until the Americans wake the fuck up

tuwtuwtuwtuw 48 minutes ago | parent

Many people in EU wants to distance themselves wherever possible from US. It's not an all-or-nothing. Of course people will continue to use Nvidia, Netflix and so on, but if there are European options then many people prefer that.

bilekas 38 minutes ago | parent

> Many people in EU wants to distance themselves wherever possible from US.

Yes, but only because the trust was broken by the US. For so long the EU was very happy to work with the US with trade, we both benefited.

bilekas 39 minutes ago | parent

It's the global economy. It's actually a good thing to promote peace between people with differences. But when one person or group decides they know better it messes everyone up. The idea was that the global economic interconnection would discourage it, now things are moving towards a no trust environment.

Europe is working towards being independent or at least not so heavy dependent, it's a good thing, but in the long term this idea of isolation for everyone isn't great.

BrunoBernardino 39 minutes ago | parent

Thanks for the question. I edited the post above to make my intentions (and lack of them in certain political and social aspects) clearer.

fsflover 23 minutes ago | parent

Perhaps a better legal framework for privacy (GDPR)?

fermigier 51 minutes ago | parent

https://euro-stack.com/ (which I'm personally managing myself), among others.

pentacent_hq 43 minutes ago | parent

Nice!

bilekas 25 minutes ago | parent

This is really nice, I appreciate anyone who will give more info out about it, I like the categories too, maybe some more tags would be nice for specifics but it's good. I also like you host in the EU too. I've seen some doing similar that were hosted in the AWS US region.

BrunoBernardino 18 minutes ago | parent

Wow, this looks really good at a glance and I will take a good look later, thanks!

jacekm 50 minutes ago | parent

I'll use the opportunity to ask what's the cheapest cold storage in the EU? I am looking for an alternative to AWS Glacier Deep Archive.

pentacent_hq 45 minutes ago | parent

Scaleway has cold storage [1], but Hetzner [2] also has quite cheap storage for stuff like backups.

[1] https://www.scaleway.com/en/glacier-cold-storage/ [2] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/

BrunoBernardino 29 minutes ago | parent

I can vouch for using Hetzner for storage (and cloud VPS). TIL Scaleway offers Glacier, which is even slightly cheaper than Hetzner. Might look into that for redundancy. Thanks!

rapnie 47 minutes ago | parent

Switching software [0] which has a repository on Codeberg [1] and an account on the fediverse [2]. It is not focused directly on EU alternatives, but:

> switching.software is a grassroots website, that is trying to let people know about ethical and easy-to-use alternatives to well-known websites, apps and other software. It is specifically aimed at a non-technical audience.

[0] https://switching.software/

[1] https://codeberg.org/swiso/website

[2] https://fedifreu.de/@switchingsoftware

BrunoBernardino 23 minutes ago | parent

Thanks! I've known about them and have used them to filter and find software, but as you mentioned, it doesn't focus on EU alternatives, so it's a bit more work when I'm focused on that, but they've definitely been useful in the past to me!

stronglikedan 38 minutes ago | parent

Just use whatever works best for you. Why bother wasting brain cells on where it comes from? Seems like extra steps for the sake of it.

ex-aws-dude 37 minutes ago | parent

Instead of Apache Server I migrated to EuroApache Server

Its similar but slightly less friendly and doesn't require a tip

nhatcher 36 minutes ago | parent

I am working on IronCalc[1]. A spreadsheet engine. We are not an alternative yet. As it is not a finished product. But, if we are successful, we should be a good alternative to traditional spreadsheet software.

[1] https://wwww.ironcalc.com

valentinconan 35 minutes ago | parent

I had this website in my bookmarks https://www.goeuropean.org/, but I'm not sure if it's up to date. If that helps...

BrunoBernardino 26 minutes ago | parent

Thanks, didn't know about it, will look into it!

momo_dev 32 minutes ago | parent

for cloud/VPS hosting hetzner has been solid for me. their object storage is S3-compatible and way cheaper than AWS. the only downside is the region options are limited to EU which is actually a feature if you're targeting EU users. for the directory question, euro-stack.com linked above looks more maintained than european-alternatives.eu. i also just search "X alternative EU" whenever i need something specific

BrunoBernardino 19 minutes ago | parent

Thanks! I'm also a happy Hetzner customer (for 4 or 5 years now?), can vouch for their object and box storage, and cloud VPS. I also already loved learning about euro-stack.com and end up doing the same as you (searching for EU alternative).

melon_tusk 30 minutes ago | parent

The EU are the ones freezing people's bank accounts and cancelling everyone they don't like, sanctioning people countries for not being woke enough, etc. I'd much rather use US based services or self-hosting.

simianwords 27 minutes ago | parent

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dijksterhuis 23 minutes ago | parent

wrong thread?

nhatcher 22 minutes ago | parent

Wrong thread?

simianwords 10 minutes ago | parent

thank you, apologies

maxdo 17 minutes ago | parent

here is how MEGA movement started in tech( make europe great again), with Orban in charge :)

cdrnsf 1 minute ago | parent

Orban is every bit as vile as the present US administration (and they spend a fair bit of time fawning over him).

the_humblest 6 minutes ago | parent

PSA, this isn't satire, it's a real site. Take it seriously.