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Most of us were amused when DALL-E and its peers went mainstream, and we were quick to point out the obvious flaws.

Then ChatGPT hit the scene and again, many of us dismissed it as a parlor trick that would never amount to much.

Using LLMs for coding initially was a only small step up from basic code completion, and a welcome farewell to Stack Overflow.

I am curious: what was the specific moment that you went from those quaint, dismissive observations to a slightly panicked, "Uh Oh" realization of what these models can do?

bigyabai 22 hours ago | parent

BERT, then GPT-J/GPT-Neo and FLAN-T5

damnitbuilds 21 hours ago | parent

My "Oh shit" moment was when my boss got the bill for me trying to vibe code a bugfix.

simsation 21 hours ago | parent

When I saw a very basic mockup of a website and realized AI could generate the entire page from it (this was shortly before ChatGPT came out)

zhoBEENG 20 hours ago | parent

It was when I first saw an LLM reliably make tool calls to bash.

LargoLasskhyfv 16 hours ago | parent

The smallest Deepseek R1 8B, running locally on CPU only, casually mentioning Efinix Trion FPGA fabrics while discussing technology mappings for different substrates of different vendors in the context of partial dynamic reconfiguration.

WTF?!

SpecStudioHN 15 hours ago | parent

when ChatGPT was released. LLMs went from being a toy to a serious creative tool overnight.

bigstrat2003 1 hour ago | parent

They're still a toy, not a serious tool.

jasondigitized 31 minutes ago | parent

Most serious tools that change the world look like toys at first. That's not my quote, that's paraphrased from the people who are associated with this website.

dang 2 hours ago | parent

(1) Watching it do log file analysis in seconds that would have taken me hours (edit: days, in fact), and which I would therefore never have done in the first place.

(2) Helping me with optimizations that I had been putting off for years because they involved learning curves that I never had time to take on.

(3) Tracking down bugs in code, especially race conditions and other concurrency issues, that were otherwise baffling.

(4) Finding information that I had been unable to find using Google searches (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42653136).

There have been others, but those are what come to mind - perhaps because, in each of these cases, it made something happen that would otherwise never have happened - not because it was impossible, but because the level of effort required was prohibitive.

refulgentis 2 hours ago | parent

Using GPT-3 to translate the color science code I wrote for Google's design system from Dart to ~any language so I could get it deployed cross platform quickly, and it all worked.

spwa4 2 hours ago | parent

When I wrote a captcha cracking convnet in 2000 and tested it ...

And in 1 out of 5 runs it beat me.

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

When none of the models, STOA or not, could answer any genuinely interesting question. All models could regurgitate was has been expressed before but nothing actually new was there, until explicitly asked for, and even then it required filtering through potentially so much noise it was practically not interesting anymore as it required all the knowledge to validate or invalidate the claims. That's when, few years ago, I realized "Oh shit... despite all the tremendous effort and resources, it's still not that useful.". Honestly this was NOT was I expected. Yet, it was an important realization.

aappleby 2 hours ago | parent

Are you sure you're asking the right questions?

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

To me they were important questions. Maybe totally interesting to you.

aspenmartin 2 hours ago | parent

Curious what your interesting questions were, you should be able to find them in your chat history.

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

That was more than a decade ago so unfortunately not. I should have kept those questions though. I even mention in a comment on HN a while ago that unanswered or wrongly answered questions should precisely be a batch test when new models are released.

poly2it 2 hours ago | parent

What? What LLM were you using a decade ago? Am I misreading you?

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

You might not be aware of it but GenAI predates OpenAI which was founded more than 10 years ago anyway.

poly2it 1 hour ago | parent

Of course I am aware, but how is this relevant today? How does that prove that the science is irrelevant and wasted?

HDThoreaun 1 hour ago | parent

No. GenAI means LLMs right now. I agree it didnt in the past, but definitions change.

triMichael 28 minutes ago | parent

Here's a good one for you: "Explain the double slit experiment which way variation"

If they say anything about leaving two straight lines, then it fails. Just tried Gemini, and it failed.

This is an extremely common misconception that has spread all throughout the internet, and so it is baked into the training data. The real answer is that there are multiple ways to do which way double slit experiments, but Einstein's thought experiment proves it's impossible for any of them have an interference pattern, as that would violate Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle.

Somehow, not leaving an interference pattern became twisted into leaving a specific pattern of two lines, which then falsely implies that quantum objects lose their quantum behavior in certain circumstances. The field of quantum physics becomes so much simpler to understand once you realize that all of this is hogwash.

The best reference I can find for where this myth started is a documentary about quantum physics that tries to connect it with mysticism. On the other hand, Wikipedia actually has it correct. In its "which way" section in the double slit experiment page, it correctly says "A well-known thought experiment predicts that if particle detectors are positioned at the slits, showing through which slit a photon goes, the interference pattern will disappear".

bigyabai 2 hours ago | parent

What question?

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

I can't recall but basic stuff like P = NP. /s

My point was preciously to challenge STOA in domains, not questions with well known answers.

estetlinus 49 minutes ago | parent

What is STOA? Do you mean SOTA?

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

Related but distinct, few years later I asked an acquaintance to ask a question to a model. I didn't want to bias the test so I ask them to ask whatever they wanted. They asked "What time is it in Sri Lanka?" which I thought was a funny question. I predicted it wouldn't work because it was asked to an offline model so I thought it wouldn't manage to get current data. Still, I didn't interfere and we watch the answer being provided. It was roughly factually correct information about Sri Lanka... but it did not give the correct time. Again that's a rather basic question a young child would easily get right. You need the current time with a known timezone, the time difference, basic arithmetic and voila, you have the correct answer with an explanation to verify. Here it didn't work and I was there trying to explain how to STOA open-source model which required thousands if not millions in resources, training time, researcher salaries, etc could not even handle that random basic question. Another "oh shit" moment, again, not the one I expected which is precisely why to me it was, and still is, interesting.

riebschlager 2 hours ago | parent

"I googled 'what is my bank balance' and it couldn't even tell me. What a waste of resources."

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

I didn't mention resources here.

The point of the test was to ask somebody with no bias on HOW the result was produced.

Rumudiez 1 hour ago | parent

"I couldn't remember the order of the words in 'state of the art' so I just spray and pray across the keyboard like usual. I can't tell the difference because I'm just a pattern matching bot"

Smaug123 2 hours ago | parent

A few years ago, as you say, this was true. Nowadays I guess you just have to bite the bullet that Erdős problems aren’t interesting.

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent

I already commented on Erdos problem, that is also a jagged frontier.

dyauspitr 2 hours ago | parent

I was trying to replace my koi pond pump last weekend and the model numbers on it had washed away. I took a picture of it and it immediately narrowed it down to two models but wasn’t sure if it was the 4500 model or the 2500 model. I asked it how I can determine which one it was. It then asked me to measure the length and that the 4500 was 11 inches and the 2500 was 9 inches. Mine was 11. It was cool it was able to reason that out and give me something actionable.

It’s kind of a trivial example but there are multiple instances of this per week with the wide variety of things I do around my property.

nrjames 1 hour ago | parent

Ha! I did the exact same thing about 2 months ago. It saved me a lot of headache and research.

dyauspitr 1 hour ago | parent

I got quoted $700 by the pond guys to replace it. I ended up buying it for $109 bucks and replacing it myself. It honestly would not have been possible without ChatGPT because I had nothing to go off of and the pipe connection was really specific to that model.

hannahstrawbrry 2 hours ago | parent

Had an issue in a project where multiple media files with the same/similar names were colliding. After spending hours with chat gpt wrangling python scripts to try and sort it out programmatically, I shifted gears and built a web tool that would allow me to manually review the content and select the correct media file to associate with it in about 5 minutes, allowing me to comb through and finally fix the issue & verify the content was correct in about an hour. It made me realize I needed to completely re-think how I set about solving problems now that I have an entirely different set of tools to develop- that has been the biggest "Oh shit" moment for me, looking into the mirror and recognizing how AI will re-shape me as a developer.

mikewarot 2 hours ago | parent

I tried to get it to generate code to program one of my BitGrid simulators, and it kept producing code that failed, over and over. It was then that I figured out that it can only do CRUD apps and the like, things it's seen over and over in its training data.

It's useless for most of what I want to code.

cheevly 1 hour ago | parent

GPT literally generates perfect code for me in languages that do not exist anywhere in its training set, so I’m not sure how you’ve achieved this level of failure.

jofer 56 minutes ago | parent

Try working in anything domain specific outside of common CRUD patterns. E.g. scientific software development where you describe a problem + give data. I have yet to see a single example of feeding in a problem in natural language involving a specific scientific domain that wasn't a catastrophic failure.

But yeah, if you want to feed it math and get code, it's reasonably okay with that. All LLMs I've used seem bad at understanding things that don't look like broad human knowledge. I've seen this same general issue across many different models. (And to be fair, geology, geophysics, and remote sensing are what I'm testing, and their semi-rare niches.)

It's also quite dangerous because it's not obvious that what it's doing is complete hallucinations unless you actually are a domain expert. Things _sound_ reasonable. E.g. "this is likely feature X" which _does_ exist, but is absolutely _not_ relevant to the problem or present in the input dataset.

But my current employer is pushing this exact thing (human language + scientific data + LLM -> advanced analysis of scientific data by LLM -> business decisions) and it _really_ worries me. It often gives the rough equivalent of "Start the procedure by severing the patient's aorta. Once they stop moving, you can deal with the hangnail". Just in very reasonable sounding language. And a lot of people don't know any better, because most users aren't domain experts.

llmssuck 23 minutes ago | parent

Stuff it's not directly trained on is going to be flaky and sucky. It was like that with programming at first too and it still is sometimes. It's hard to imagine this won't improve with better more focused training. They focus on improving "CRUD" for obvious reasons. The specialization era hasn't begun yet.

Your domain, while I'm sure it is very interesting and complex, if it proves economically interesting will be cracked as well.

jofer 16 minutes ago | parent

Just for some context, the domain we're talking about is oil and gas and mineral exploration. E.g. I used to personally manage a >$400 million per year budget and that wasn't even considered significant. We had multiple >$10 billion per year projects ongoing. That was 10 years ago. The amounts are larger now.

The issue isn't a lack of economic interest.

hansvm 2 hours ago | parent

A coworker had me work through a particular problem (some no-importance web demo) with Cursor and Sonnet 4.6. It still sucked, but there was a qualitative shift in suckiness, one that I realized could finally be used to solve some real problems I had if I wrote an appropriate harness and used good enough models.

I still find it mandatory to write a lot of kinds of code by hand, but I write a lot of code with agents too now, and I previously literally didn't think that'd happen in <5yrs.

saadn92 2 hours ago | parent

I use claude code on a daily basis, but honestly it becomes more annoying the more I use it. Why? I think because I ask it to do something and unless I'm extremely specific, either the code is verbose or the feature I'm designing is done in a poor way. For me, the productivity gains aren't that great and I'm even considering whether to go back to doing things by hand to save myself the frustration. Sure, if you don't care about code quality or scalability, it's a great thing to generate code. And yes, there are times when I don't, but for real projects, I actually do because I know as an engineer those things do matter in the long run. So, to be honest, I still haven't had that moment.

pythonaut_16 2 hours ago | parent

It has seemed to me that with each step from Opus 4.6, to 4.7 to 4.8 Claude has gotten worse at building good solutions. Like perhaps it is more "capable" in the small scale than 4.5 was but it's much worse at knowing what to do.

tripledry 2 hours ago | parent

From a technology perspective LLMs are absolutely bonkers, blows my mind it works as well as it does.

From a programmer perspective, I'm starting to like it less and less. It's useful for sure, but doesn't really live up to the hype. In many ways it's the opposite, my bet is still that programmers will be in high demand in the not so distant future after all of this settles.

Might be wrong, time will tell.

slopinthebag 42 minutes ago | parent

Yeah I'm the same way. They seem great when you ask it to build something unspecified, like "build me a todo app" or something. It's like magic. But when you know what the code needs to look like and can't accept anything else they just become so frustrating to use, and I doubt there is a productivity improvement there.

I think we will find ways to make them useful though. I imagine eventually it'll just be built into our editors and we don't even be thinking about AI or "agents" or "prompting", our tools will just be more capable.

Fomite 2 hours ago | parent

When we had to have a frank discussion about whether to fail someone who obviously used an LLM for parts their dissertation.

sevennull 1 hour ago | parent

well?

bag_boy 2 hours ago | parent

I had ChatGPT write up a Zillow description for my house in the style of Carrie Bradshaw from “Sex and the City” to impress my wife.

It was unlike anything I had ever experienced.

My wife was unimpressed lol.

This was 2022.

moconnor 2 hours ago | parent

Literally the very first time I used ChatGPT. I had already been experimenting with GPT3 for various jokes and games via the API but the naturalness of it as a chat interface that understood you changed everything.

The first time I used a terminal agent was another one.

boredhedgehog 2 hours ago | parent

"Translate this poem. Maintain meter and rhyme."

steren 2 hours ago | parent

The moment when I ran llama on my old gaming PC (using something called ChatGPT4All) was my "oh shit" moment: I was now talking... to my PC.

overgard 2 hours ago | parent

I feel like with the hype cycle and constant publishing of sketchy claims that I pretty much daily have an "oh shit" moment followed by a "nope, everything is about the same" moment. It's frankly exhausting. It's hard for me to recall a subject that has irritated me as much over a period of years, and it's barely even about AI itself but instead just feeling harassed with the constant anxiety and rage baiting.

tripledry 2 hours ago | parent

I felt the same way, then I started with "I'll believe it when I see it". Now I'm a bit happier.

skyberrys 2 hours ago | parent

Pretty good take. I don't really get the feelings of anxiety, but sometimes I'm working and I'm like I'm flying this is so fast! And then everything comes crashing down when I can't figure out one last bug.

sct202 2 hours ago | parent

One of our SAAS providers launched an AI agent enabled version, and it can follow direction and do tasks & manipulate data/settings in the software like on par with a below average person. When I used it I had a sinking feeling, tons of teams and people will be redundant as these agents improve and roll out to other software.

knuckleheads 2 hours ago | parent

I remember a couple months after ChatGPT came out I was in a 1-1 with a coworker who hadn’t really played around with it much. I was very much toying around with it and was surprised at how good at stuff it was. I wanted to show him it was for real, he was skeptical, so over a half hour we had it make a bee and a flower buzz around in d3, copying and pasting between jsfiddle and ChatGPT. By the end of it, we had a nice animation and were both throughly surprised that the computers could code so well now.

bluejay2387 2 hours ago | parent

I had a locally hosted model write its own semantic search system that indexed 250,000 documentation and code files and then write a fully functioning mod for one of the games I play based on that documentation that I couldn't get to work after 2 weeks of my own effort, all in under 4 hours (and that included a 25 minute long indexing process). This freaked me out enough that I then had it write a CLI based activity and TODO tracker and then integrate that tool into its coding process to track all of its activities in about another 2 hours. I am still emotionally recovering from this day. I have since replaced the semantic search system with an open source option (though I used it for a few months) but I still use the activity tracker for both coding projects and myself.

gravypod 1 hour ago | parent

What mod did you build?

bluejay2387 1 hour ago | parent

A mod that fixed a bug that prevented certain buffs from working when mounted for the Magus class / Arcane Rider archetype in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous. It also managed to fix the problem with Shelters not providing protection from corruption when resting in outposts in that same mod. I've used other models to expand the mod to an entire mini-expansion with new Archetypes and abilities since then.

jkraybill 2 hours ago | parent

So many. First was when I saw GPT-2 create jokes that were original and kinda funny.

Most recent: I use Claude Code and have a convention where I grant various levels of autonomy during a session. I got bored recently and just let it keep running with an empty issues queue, essentially telling it to do whatever it wanted.

It did a bunch of repo cleanup, then it kept suggesting to end the session, but I just kept giving it autonomy prompts.

It started a creative writing public repo and wrote a bunch of stories, essays, and poems. I did not prompt it, at all, to do that. Some of what it wrote is quite good (IMHO).

goldenarm 2 hours ago | parent

The first SORA release truly scared me. The uncanny valley of simulating life like this still creeps me out to this day.

kgwxd 2 hours ago | parent

When it started being forced on me in tools I was already using begrudgingly.

jmkni 2 hours ago | parent

Not coding, but reading logs.

I was trying to figure out a nightmare bug that only happened in production and Claude code was able to connect to Google Cloud and read the logs in real time

I recreated the bug in the UI and it was instantly able to see ion the logs what the problem was, then because it had the context of my whole codebase it was able to point me to the exact line of code causing the problem

That was certainly an "oh shit" moment

shreddude 2 hours ago | parent

I could go on and on, but Claude recently decompiled the firmware of my camper van, documented all the CAN interfaces, then programmed an ESP32 module to talk to the van’s integrated systems (power, HVAC, lighting, tanks). That sort of embedded systems integration is completely out of my wheelhouse.

I honestly don’t understand AI naysayers. I use Claude every day both professionally as a Solution Architect and personally in a variety of projects I simply could not have ever approached alone.

rvnx 1 hour ago | parent

I get it understand either. "This is just a stochastic parrot".

I suppose these people are lying so that they can justify their well-paid job, or they just don't know how to use LLMs or to prompt GenAI tools.

jazzyjackson 1 hour ago | parent

I’ll explain it: these tools are non-deterministic and people have different experiences with them. For a few people every interaction is totally fumbled and they think the cheerleaders of gen AI must be lying, for others the chatbot hits one home run after another and lets them add microcontrollers to their CAN bus. When these people’s good luck runs out and they start getting mixed results like the average user, they assert the service must have been down graded

dyauspitr 1 hour ago | parent

I still don’t get it I can dictate a prompt and sometimes I do it so quickly the text looks like a drunken parrot dictated it and it still always gets exactly what I’m asking for. I’m just going to attribute malice to the naysayers.

bonoboTP 50 minutes ago | parent

Some people are really bad at specifying what they want to ask for. Or they already start prompting with the attitude that it can't possibly work so they don't even really try, or stop at the first failure to point and say how bad it is.

thewebguyd 9 minutes ago | parent

People are really, really bad at specifying what they actually want. I've worked in IT for my whole career, starting in help desk (now an IT manager). My days in the service desk was enough proof that people have no idea what they actually want, or at least, they really struggle to articulate it into words.

It's the famous "email broken, fix pls" but in the form of an LLM prompt.

triMichael 48 minutes ago | parent

I'll add to that: you are more likely to have a good experience if it has a lot of relevant data that it was trained on. You are also more likely to have a good experience if errors don't cause major issues.

So one-shotting a game of Snake should be great (tons of training data, errors are easily caught because it's a small program). Similar with building a lot of web UI front end, or one-shotting a personal project. On the other hand, I haven't been convinced that it's good enough to maintain large codebases or assist with niche topics that are not very well documented.

lowbloodsugar 15 minutes ago | parent

> On the other hand, I haven't been convinced that it's good enough to maintain large codebases or assist with niche topics that are not very well documented.

Same is true of humans. So far my experience is that addressing the issue with the help of AI is faster than not (ie comprehending the system and creating the documentation).

thewebguyd 11 minutes ago | parent

> if it has a lot of relevant data that it was trained on

This became evident to me the moment I tried to have these models work on some PowerShell tasks for me. Even Opus today struggles with PowerShell.

Since anything in PS is probably some internal sysadmin tool, there's not much public code out there outside of Microsoft's documentation. Plus the Verb-Noun naming scheme makes it really easy to just hallucinate cmdlets (which it does, often). Its easier to have the LLM just do things in python using M365 Graph API than any of the provided PowerShell cmdlets.

OTOH, I've been using Claude for a lot of Swift & Swift UI work lately and it has no problems there, and I'd imagine there's even less publicly available training data for that so to be honest I'm not entirely sure why it fails so badly at powershell.

camel_gopher 1 hour ago | parent

It’s a probabilistic parrot

orzig 2 hours ago | parent

"Write a bible verse ... explaining how to remove a sandwich from a VCR" https://x.com/tqbf/status/1598513757805858820

EliRivers 2 hours ago | parent

Code reviews. Code reviews in theory done by humans, but containing copy-pasted inane statements of the obvious. Questions that really did no more than demonstrate a lack of context. Code reviews no longer an educational opportunity for the reviewer, a way they learn and stress their own understanding to create a better product and become a better person, destroyed by the siren song of GenAI producing comments that on the surface seem so helpful and sensible.

"Uh Oh" realization of what these models can do?

The code reviews was just how I first saw it, but the rot goes deeper. The "uh oh" was my realisation of how much these can damage people's professional development. These people will never get better at their job than they are right now.

A lot of what else GenAI does is great, but this is an "Uh oh" indeed.

twooclock 2 hours ago | parent

I programmed data export to some xml over a couple of days. Sending xml results via email to an accounting firm for verification. A day after I finished my disk crashed and I lost all my code. Fed Claude with xml from my mail and... oh shit! ... got "my" code back. (And immediately paid for Claude subscription) :-)

oidar 2 hours ago | parent

Opus 4.6. My standard battery of questions included solving an ascii maze (20x20 grid) without using a script, using only "thinking" as a tool. It was the first model to be able to solve it. It was the first model that really appeared to be able to reason spatially.

briga 2 hours ago | parent

Maybe when I found out you can use it to run terminal commands, spin up and take down dev environments, and even run other LLMs. Suddenly 90% of the difficulty of onboarding to new repos disappeared overnight and a lot of heavily CLI-based workflows became trivial to automate. Never again do I want to spend hours manually sorting out Python dependencies.

evdubs 2 hours ago | parent

I tried to see if an LLM service provider could rewrite some legal docs where nothing was hallucinated in order to follow a consistent format to see what may be missing in the document. It could do that.

Next, I wanted to see if this could be done with a local LLM. Gemma-4 handles this fine with an 8GB video card and a large context (128k).

Next, I wanted to see if the model could also OCR these docs and translate them. The same model can handle that quite well.

This was when I realized LLMs should be great for handling work where:

- I already know what I want to do

- I already know how to do it

- I don't think this task will help develop skills I find to be valuable

- If I have to do it manually myself, I will probably cut corners

So now I view LLMs through the lens of, "what work can I send to an LLM that I otherwise would not really care about doing."

SoftTalker 1 hour ago | parent

Yes, the best results I've had using LLMs are for tasks where simply reading and reformatting/translating/summarizing are the goals. They are much faster and less prone to boredom doing these things than humans are. For now.

jasondigitized 55 minutes ago | parent

This. I know how to do this but I don't have the time/energy to do this. "Get me Claude!"

hypendev 1 hour ago | parent

Back in the times of GPT3 text completion, right before the API came out, a contemporary art museum asked me to collaborate on a project. The project was supposed to include a chatbot, and I was like okay I can probably hook something up.

Then I remembered the "text completion LLM thingy" I saw on HN, and tried it out in the playground. Once I gave it an IRC style example of a conversation to complete, I was like hm, this could work. Then I figured out I could "sort" people into different groups based on personality using the same text completion engine and some answers they provided. Then I noticed I could have it provide me with JSON directly.

That's when I realized how big this could be for code and data analysis - even tried to convince an at the time cofounder to pivot into AI coding, but to no avail.

Once the API was released and the art project chatbot got launched (and the theater show associated with it, which even won some awards), people who used it loved the chatbot, got into heated arguments with it, tried to teach it things, talked about their lives and were sad when it didnt remember something.

That was when I understood the social impact this could have on people - they really behave like its a person on the other side. They show interest, think it displays emotion, try to entertain it, be polite, ask about its thoughts and hopes and dreams. And even when they knew they were talking to a machine, they were still trying to be friends and make it happy, which was quite beautiful to see.

Later on, I had a third oh shit moment - once the 3.5 API was out and about, I prototyped a Rust code generation harness for a client, akin to a primitive claude code. That was the "I'm getting a bit worried" oh shit moment, and it caused a lot of reflection and thinking about the future. And I happily welcome it.

llmssuck 35 minutes ago | parent

I also remember doing this. Chats, first parts of books, title pages and all, just to give it a chance of saying something in the ballpark of what I was looking for. I remember very vividly that chats or books by Linus Torvalds would be more technically accurate that say Lincoln. It's obvious of course, but I found it really enlightening. It could code a bit actually, not great, but well enough to push me into an existential crisis. I started doing a master to re-educate myself because I could see "interesting" times coming.

I actually emailed OpenAI back then saying they should be careful because this is much greater than the public or even they themselves think. They actually replied! They thought it was cool, but very limited and I shouldn't be too impressed. Good times.

nsikorr 1 hour ago | parent

Definitely the first NotebookLM podcast I generated.

jmclnx 1 hour ago | parent

Non-technical people I know are starting to take AI responses to their questions as 100% true fact.

SoftTalker 1 hour ago | parent

They did the same with Google search results that were just SEO garbage content, too.

Baeocystin 1 hour ago | parent

"On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

--Charles Babbage

Blind trust in the machine for a certain type of user seems to be endemic since the beginning.

dyauspitr 1 hour ago | parent

It’s usually right. This isn’t as big of an issue anymore.

F3nd0 49 minutes ago | parent

People taking ‘usually right’ as ‘100% true fact’ sounds like a pretty big issue to me. Of course, it’s the people who must learn to know and mind the distinction, first and foremost.

1qaboutecs 1 hour ago | parent

Was trying to explain convolution (of functions) to a friend and I wanted to build a little picture. I typed more or less nothing into Claude and it gave me a fine web-app for demo'ing examples to my friend within minutes.

Three years ago this would have taken a minimum of three college graduates a couple days -- one to know the math, one to know the backend, and one to know the front-end. Maybe two of those could be the same person on a good day -- none of the topics is individually that hard -- but it's a lot together.

simonw 1 hour ago | parent

ChatGPT Code Interpreter back in ~March 2023. I uploaded a CSV file (of police incidents in San Francisco) and watched it load that into Pandas, show me some charts, then export the data to a SQLite database file for me to download.

I write software for data journalists and this new thing appeared to be able to do everything I wanted my software to do just as an unplanned side effect of having the ability to run Python against a folder with some uploaded files in it.

With hindsight it was my first exposure to a coding agent, but we hadn't named the category at that point.

mbo 1 hour ago | parent

Look, not to brag but DALL-E's "armchair in the shape of an avocado" was mine (https://openai.com/index/dall-e/). I remember trying to convey the gravity of this capability to my friends at the time, who I guess were not as impressed as me.

wps 1 hour ago | parent

Thats insane! I cited your image in a humanities paper during one of my freshman year classes.

bonoboTP 1 hour ago | parent

I think the GP just means it was their oh shit moment, not that it was their image...

mbo 58 minutes ago | parent

Yes confirmed, I did not author the DALL-E paper lmao

kstrauser 48 minutes ago | parent

I think GP meant that yes, they were the one who had that image generated, and the oh shit moment was that it worked.

KaiserPro 1 hour ago | parent

I've had a few.

The biggest technical one was when we were making an all day wearable AI assistant thing. It basically had really precise office location (think cm level accurate) a shitty VLM to describe what the wide angle lens was looking at, Speech to text, OCR and a gaze recorder that decribed what you were looking at.

This was all streamed to sqlite. The thing that was really "oh shit" what the thing that made the whole system usable: a 4 paragraph prompt that turned natural language into SQL and reported back to the (non technical user) what they wanted to know.

The most recent one is being caught out by Genai video of a gymnast. I worked in VFX so I am normally able to spot dodgy shit, but this one was close to being real, scarily real.

abstractanimal 1 hour ago | parent

When I realized that an LLM can process all the traffic in Slack that overwhelms me daily and give me a manageable digest. How long until they intermediate most of our social interactions? Sooner than we can possibly adapt, I think.

jazzyjackson 1 hour ago | parent

If you social interactions can be mediated by a chatbot I implore you to find better social interaction

cheevly 1 hour ago | parent

If yours cant, then I implore you to find better AI mediation tools.

estetlinus 56 minutes ago | parent

100% yes.

etiam 52 minutes ago | parent

Many people got something of a head start adapting though? Seems like it's been the proposition from "social" "media" companies since 2004 or so to stop talking to friends, talking to their computers instead and consuming the half-digest of friend's transmissions mixed with ads/psyops coming in?

cheevly 1 hour ago | parent

Ever since the first Davinci model of GPT-3 ive literally been using LLMs daily. It was an indispensable tool for me from the very beginning and despite 10,000+ hours of usage and research, I still feel like ive barely cracked the surface of whats possible with current genai tech.

irthomasthomas 1 hour ago | parent

My most recent one: Taking a bricked ipad and plugging it into my linux laptop, then telling deepseek to fix it. A couple of hours and twenty sudo passwords later it was working again.

ilaksh 1 hour ago | parent

OpenAI already had GPT prior to the ChatGPT launch, and I had not really taken it seriously. But on November 30, 2022 when ChatGPT came out and was immediately popular, I reevaluated it.

I immediately realized that it meant my time as a programmer in the traditional sense was going to come to an end relatively soon.

On December 1, 2022 I created my first agentic coding loop experiment. I launched one of the first AI code generation websites that would generate web pages along with embedded images in January 2023.

mschaef 1 hour ago | parent

This is a small one, but significant to me.

I asked Claude to add support for multiple lights to my toy ray-tracer. It correctly added the support and then suggested adding colored lights to make it easier to diagnose. It felt more like a colleague making a useful suggestion than any sort of pure engineering tool.

andrewthornton 1 hour ago | parent

My furnace went out during the 2025 holiday and I couldn't get an appointment with a repair person for 2 days. It was getting very cold in my house so I went into my attic and made several videos of the furnace attempting to start and gave it to gemini. It diagnosed the issue immediately and had me spin one of the components (a small exhaust fan) while the furnace tried to fire. It came on immediately. I had to do that several times, but it worked until the HVAC service showed up.

alberth 1 hour ago | parent

Do you mind explain more. Did you just prompt to Gemini what was happening, did you give Gemini photos of Furnance, etc?

gwbas1c 1 hour ago | parent

> and made several videos of the furnace attempting to start and gave it to gemini

I assume recorded videos and uploaded them in the Gemini phone on their app; and then probably said "what's wrong?"

Gemini is very good at those kinds of things. I recently got some ratcheting straps and needed to use them, but at the time I didn't know what they were called, so I didn't know what to search for on Google. I opened the Gemini app, pushed the button to take a picture (just like in text messages,) and included a message that was similar to "what is this and how do I use it?"

tonyedgecombe 1 hour ago | parent

I've been fitting a kitchen and chatGPT has been useful to bounce ideas off and resolve issues. Of course if IKEA's documentation wasn't so sparse I wouldn't need it but that's another story.

I guess I'm seeing similar benefits to a novice programmer. Professionals would scoff at my work but they are expensive and difficult to work with. Meanwhile I'm getting the job done.

On the other hand I'm not touching AI for any development work. I'm too worried about my skills atrophying or not properly learning anything new.

rustyhancock 48 minutes ago | parent

Ikeas instructions are such an oddity.

It feels like there is precisely enough information to deduce each step. But only just enough miss one clue and you have something on upside down on step 7 that you won't notice until step 37.

I feel whoever makes them could probably make a wicked NY Times Crossword puzzle.

ssl-3 1 hour ago | parent

That's pretty great.

(Though that's also the kind of hands-on troubleshooting step/fix that a person could just google for and find pretty easily back before the internet got all fucked up.)

wombat-man 14 minutes ago | parent

Oh yeah. I can't remember which LLM, but one helped me repair my dryer.

buckle8017 7 minutes ago | parent

Gemini almost killed you.

The exhaust blower not working triggered a safety that prevented the furnace from firing.

Spinning it bypassed the safety.

You likely inhaled a lot more carbon monoxide than you know.

bachmeier 1 hour ago | parent

> that you went from those quaint, dismissive observations to a slightly panicked, "Uh Oh" realization of what these models can do?

Never experienced any kind of panic, only excitement. I told Github Copilot to add documentation to a function and it documented how the code was used even though there was nothing in the function to indicate how it was used. It somehow knew from the code pattern why I was writing that function.

adammarples 1 hour ago | parent

Struggling to do named entity recognition, with lots of tagging by hand, and then seeing BERT just being able to straight up answer questions about a document. Had to sit down after that because it was past anything I could even understand.

gravypod 1 hour ago | parent

I work with someone who is very AI-forward, high confidence, and very low execution. He has started sending me large PRs of AI slop that he assured me doesn't need to be reviewed. I quickly find many minor issues from an initial pass of one of the reviews. He gets mad at the team for slowing him down.

He also will paste chat logs with Claude into our team chat. Often Claude will say the same thing I told him but he either doesn't remember or doesn't trust human engineers now.

He has spent months working on agent skills and prompring.

He has not landed anything in 3mo, and has landed nothing useful in ~1 year.

This will be the rest of my career. Working with people in ai psychosis and trying to stay productive.

peteforde 1 hour ago | parent

What's funny about this is that it sounds like your coworker reviews his LLM output roughly as well as you read the other replies before assuming that this was an anti-LLM pile-on thread.

gravypod 6 minutes ago | parent

I did read the other replies. I don't think my comment is that LLMs are bad. I use LLMs and agents for work. I think my "oh shit" moment is the dynamic that giving someone LLMs amplifies their impact (positive or negative).

For example, some people give kids tiny go karts and that's acceptable because the damage they can do with a very tiny battery powered 4 wheeler is minimal. We now live in a world where everyone has access to a tank and can plow over everything.

I think LLMs will increase anti-social behavior.

estetlinus 53 minutes ago | parent

CI/CD?

My non-techie friends send me screenshots of ChatGPT. I guess that’s a modern micro aggression?

gravypod 3 minutes ago | parent

> CI/CD?

That is less useful when the changes are editing the tests but we don't know if a human has validated the assertions.

> My non-techie friends send me screenshots of ChatGPT. I guess that’s a modern micro aggression?

I think the concern I have is explicitly not the sending the chat logs. I think it's this flow:

1. Ask a question

2. Get an answer from a team member.

3. I don't like the answer and instead of discussing I am going to go to Claude and ask the same question.

4. Copy/paste the answer into chat without seeing if it includes novel information.

In one case the engineer was asking which model to select in the agent framework we are using. I gave an answer and provided a list of reasons. They did not like this answer and asked Claude which gave the same answer.

The answer was something inherently obvious and that anyone should be able to derive from first principals.

hereme888 1 hour ago | parent

Creating a functional python app with zero programming knowledge, back in the days of GPT 3.5.

That was enough to awaken my teenage hacker spirit.

block_dagger 1 hour ago | parent

I wanted to add gapless playback to an audio archive website I maintain. I tried myself before any of the popular LLMs were available. I failed. I then tried with the first LLMs that came out. They failed. Then, when the first Claude Opus was released, it succeeded. I now have gapless playback.

solomonb 1 hour ago | parent

I gave chatgpt 3.5 the type signature for a co-algebraic encoding of a mealy machine:

    newtype Mealy s i o = Mealy { runMealy :: (s, i) -> (s, o) }
And it gave a really impressive analysis.

Then I scrambled all the names and asked with a fresh context like:

    newtype Foo z e g = Bar { blob :: (z, e) -> (z, g) }
It got completely confused and generated a bunch of non-sense. It was at that moment I realized that LLMs don't really understand anything.

And yes I understand that a newer model would not get confused by this.

bonoboTP 1 hour ago | parent

In high school math class our teacher swapped out all the symbols in the epsilon delta definition of limits, and asked us what this equation expresses, and many students struggled to interpret it.

I don't think this test shows that an LLM doesn't "understand". It shows more that it has similar failure modes as humans.

solomonb 7 minutes ago | parent

Well first of all I think there is more implicit data encoded in the symbols of the epsilon delta definition of limits. In the Mealy example they really just labels for arbitrary sets. The LLM actually failed a much simpler relabeling exercise. Setting that aside, I still think the analogy is flawed.

The student is mid learning process and its entirely reasonable for them one to be relying on pattern recognition until they have fully internalized the subject. The model is fully trained and should thus have internalized their understanding of the subject.

Additionally the student can update their understanding when pattern recognition fails. The model is fully cooked and will never do more then pattern recognition.

maxwellg 1 hour ago | parent

Pre-GenAI I wrote a new interview question for a role on our team. As far as I know, the question was never made public. The interview required implementing a pretty basic CSS-in-JS utility in vanilla javascript. We instructed the candidate read the MDN documentation for the CSSStyleSheet interface, and then gave them a public API to implement. Passing implementations usually consisted of a ~10 line for loop, and was really just a test of whether a developer pick up and work with new libraries on the fly. Still, the interview probably had a 30% pass rate.

On a lark, I asked ChatGPT to complete the interview question in late 2022. I would have hired ChatGPT back then based on its first response! It was easily in the 90th percentile of responses I have seen.

nrjames 1 hour ago | parent

We were experiencing abnormally high electrical bills and I could not figure out what was happening, so I downloaded the granular usage data (15 min increments) from Duke Energy, explained what we had in our house and when we typically used those items (washer/dryer, EVs, etc), provided a rundown of our energy usage plan, then asked Claude to build me a Streamlit dashboard that would help us understand what was going on and predict what was going to happen over the next months. The dashboard had a few simple toggles a levers. Claude was basically able to one-shot this, knew how to manage the XML from Duke Energy, etc... In about 20 minutes of prompting, I had a very comprehensive dashboard that was extremely helpful not only in diagnosing that specific issue but also in helping us understand how to further lower our electrical bills.

lithboy 1 hour ago | parent

This can be a product.

url00 1 hour ago | parent

The comment above literally said this took them 20 minutes of prompting. That doesn't sound like much if any value add.

underdeserver 58 minutes ago | parent

It's not going to be a particularly expensive product, but a product it can be.

codybontecou 55 minutes ago | parent

I’m making $1000/month off of an app that was initially a single prompt.

There’s a gold rush right now. You absolutely can turn these ideas into products.

jasondigitized 52 minutes ago | parent

Sounds like something people say to locksmiths.

sgarman 59 minutes ago | parent

Homeassistant already has tons of integration into power providers and easily let's you pipe in local data if you have it. In addition - can it be a product if anyone can just type what this guy did into an LLM? What's your moat if anyone can just replicate it?

bonoboTP 39 minutes ago | parent

Going from one off prototype to robust product is a huge leap.

I think these ephemeral context tailored projects are really great and useful. But these are not to be thought of as products. They work for you specifically, and people who are tech-brained enough to be able to formulate the complex requirements into a coherent prompt are not like the average user you'd have to sell a product to. It's much easier to make software to intelligent users.

vunderba 1 hour ago | parent

Honestly? Probably all the way back to when Nick Walton used the computers at his university to train a custom version of GPT-2 that let players experience a completely open-ended text adventure game in 2019.

As somebody who as a kid had tried feeding IF transcripts into a markov model to generate random rooms for an amateur MUD, this was mind-blowing. It felt like I was playing a version of the “Mind Game” from Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_Dungeon

anon373839 1 hour ago | parent

Mine was when I used Stanford Alpaca, and realized that they had transformed Llama 7B into a credible facsimle of ChatGPT with just $600.

nickandbro 1 hour ago | parent

When I was making matplotlib charts with gpt 3.5, and I was like okay this is somewhat impressive

wps 1 hour ago | parent

Nvidia GauGAN and deep-daze amused me immensely at the age of 14 or so. I've had "a man painting a completely red image" saved for a long time.

It is insane how primitive modern inpainting and txt2image make these two projects look.

_0ffh 1 hour ago | parent

Didn't have one. I was convinced I would experience this since I was a teenager. Blame science fiction if you will.

rerdavies 1 hour ago | parent

Working on a Spice compiler to convert schematics for classic guitar pedals into real-time executable code.

I provided a reference to a The Spice Manual 2nd ed. a page number and an equation number, and asked Claude to implement it (not really expecting it to succeed).

It proceeded to implement not only the equation, but the calculation of the Langrangian of the functio, another 30 lines below, which required taking symbolic partial derivatives for a not-at-all trivial function, and successfully figuring out which variable was which in the resulting matrix. The source material just said "Lagrangian of", and did not provide the partial differential equations. And then providing a comment that identified the page number and equation number in the source text for the "Lagrangian of" equation.

ieie3366 1 hour ago | parent

I'm a terrible cook, but just by using Claude as a tutor I've managed to make 5 different recipes in a row and they all tasted fantastic, restaurant quality.

bonoboTP 1 hour ago | parent

The big one was definitely ChatGPT upon release in 2022 and specifically when people showed how it can role play as a Linux terminal and you can narrate events like "the data enter is now on fire" and "run" nvidia-smi, it would show high temps on the gpus etc. Or you could "explore" the homedir or some famous person. It convinced me that if it can understand so well how terminals work, tool use and agents are around the corner.

Then Opus 4.5 convinced me that this has finally arrived. In 2022 I expected things to arrive faster actually, in 2023-2024. I expected we'd have much more realtime collaborative integrations with AI including GUI computer use. Maybe in 1-2 years.

For images, it was nano banana where I realized AI images can truly work, and all these adhoc issues like hands and limbs, or "it will never do horse riding a astronaut" were temporary. It's now clear that making feature length films is within reach. Not in one go but with an agent orchestrating, designing a screenplay, characters, shots etc and generating those. Whether the result will be worth watching or a flat story on the high level is another question. But it will be a "film" for sure.

cineticdaffodil 1 hour ago | parent

I think all those Steve Spielbergs hiding among the 8 billion - without connections and without hollywood names, having their day without getting filtered out by investor gremiums playing it safe - will produce enough material to be happy cineast for life.

jasondigitized 49 minutes ago | parent

YouTube is well poised for this.

skybrian 18 minutes ago | parent

How will anyone find them, though, if there's so much slop that people stop looking?

jiggawatts 1 hour ago | parent

I reverse engineered a proprietary network protocol from a vendor binary (compiled C++) and a short sample network capture.

The agent had access to the NSA Ghidra disassembler, which it can control shockingly well.

I just clicked the “Allow” button a lot and eyeballed the output decoding quality. I felt like I got demoted to non-technical QA.

dannyobrien 1 hour ago | parent

I got early access to the pre-ChatGPT OpenAI API (actually by pinging someone from OpenAI who posted about it on HN). At work, we were setting up to play a livestreamed JackBox game for a charity event. This would have been in 2019.

In a previous life, I'd been a writer for the original You Don't Know Jack game (the UK variant), where the job was to crank out as many funny quips about a topic as you could, and then use a handful of them in the recording of the game itself. Some of the later JackBox games are like that, but for the players -- you're given a set piece, have to come up with little funny improvisations within a time limit.

As an experiment, I tried the set-up lines with the OpenAI API, and see whether it could come up with some responses. Of course, 90% of them were unfunny or incoherent, but 1/10 were not bad, or even pretty good.

I'm not sure that would have been impressive to anyone else -- but remember, I'd had this as a job, and sat in a writer's room, where everyone did this, for hours. In that environment, you expect a large proportion to be duds: the discipline is keep pumping them out, and not flagging creatively until you find a rich vein. I realised that this was a tool that would have been the perfect complement to that work -- and it was a pretty good JackBox player too.

jerome-jh 1 hour ago | parent

Recently, Claude (through Copilot) found a hardware issue on our product. I was asking it to find an issue in a specific feature of a device driver, that could cause what we observed. It determined the feature was correctly implemented.

Then it hinted that depending how the hardware is implemented, it could cause the observation. It turned out the hardware was implemented as suspected by Claude.

I was already convinced it knew the codebase, somehow, more than I do. Now it is just as if its knows the product and its use as well.

chasd00 1 hour ago | parent

i was a skeptic and then, on a whim, i told claudecode to "create an app with a react front end and python api backend that delegates auth0.com and allows users to manage a todo list" or something like that. Like a standard issue web app with a database, backend, frontend, openid and all that. i was pretty impressed with the result.

Then i asked it to create a multi-user stock market portfolio simulator with a comprehensive api, leaderboard, scheduled tasks and the other bells and whistles. Again, fairly impressed with the result. Then I prompted it to build an trading bot that uses the API to compete with the human players, again fairly impressed with the result.

Last, i prompted my way through a react native mobile app integrated with supabase for my sister's startup. It created the schema, some triggers, webhook for stripe, all the app views, setup an expo account, push notifications, prompted _me_ through an Apple developer account and everything else.

All of this was done an hour here and an hour there while making dinner or watching TV, barely any attention paid to the details. Just prompting claudecode and checking what it did.

After those three experiences I started incorporating claudecode into all my coding workflows and managed to get my job to buy me a license for work stuff too.

geuis 1 hour ago | parent

For me it wasn't "oh shit" per say, but "oh wow".

Some time in 2024 at a company get together, we had an afternoon hackathon. There was a feature in our iOS app that was missing (ability to mute autoplaying game trailers). This annoyed me a lot, because I frequently have music on when working and anytime I needed to open a test build it would kill my music. It had been an open ticket for a while but had low priority for the iOS team.

I had probably written a hundred lines of Swift in my career up to that point. Not expecting anything to come from it, I had Cursor examine the iOS codebase and told it I wanted to add a mute button under a certain area of the app settings.

Blew my mind when after only 10 minutes or so, the model had quickly found where to add the feature. Took a little back and forth, but then it added a fully functioning mute option in settings that mostly worked across the app. A little more back and forth, and those issues were settled. Maybe an hour overall of time spent that afternoon.

I pinged one of the iOS engineers about it later and he said to push it up for review. There were a few things that needed to be updated to get it inline with the rest of the codebase, but nothing substantial. Feature got merged a week or two later.

Now I'm way more productive than I have been in years. I've been getting a lot of enjoyment out of being able to prototype rapidly and experiment on features rather than getting bogged down in the process of scaffold work. Able to knock out issues much quicker.

That's all been positive, but it hasn't taken away my actual core responsibility. The LLMs can give you great advice and write code quickly. But they still don't always do well at broad thinking.

Current case in point: I've been working on an iOS app that uses vision models to do work on photos and videos that the user has taken. I've built text-based semantic search systems before, and there's a lot of cross over with vision models, but its been an interesting journey so far learning about the different types of vision models and what they're good at. Lots of testing so far and educating myself on the topic to get the user-level features I want. Claude code has been invaluable in this, as its great at writing the Swift code while I'm able to focus on the results of what is being done.

Where Claude is still not good is being able to reason at a higher level about different strategies on using vision model outputs to achieve the stated goals. Its not an issue of me not clearly defining the specifics of a feature and then letting Claude run off burning tokens to figure it out. For example, just late last night I was deep diving into some core segmentation code and having Claude explain what everything was doing line by line so that I could get a better understanding of the mechanics of the vision model.

A side effect was that I realized the vision model was outputting tons of nearly identical segments that were overlapping. This was something Claude had completely missed, and because I didn't know that's something this particular vision model did I had no prior way to know to catch it.

Bottom line is that understanding the mechanics of your application is still very much a requirement for the engineer. In this case, once I learned what was happening it completely changed my approach on how to achieve my feature goal. The code runs hundreds of times faster now and the segmentation is much, much better.

The new wave of coding models is disruptive, but its letting me be a much better engineer and get things done faster and with more assurance that the code being written is solid. I still have to spend the same amount of time thinking and learning about a problem, and probably more time verifying what's being output, but a lot of the drudgery is also being taken away.

gwbas1c 1 hour ago | parent

When I don't know how to use a specific API, or how to do a task, I'll often give some high-level instructions to Copilot (Claude's model) in Visual Studio, and then review what it comes up with very, very closely. (Including lookup up specs so I can confirm that it did it correctly.)

It's much, much faster and easier than starting from scratch.

enraged_camel 1 hour ago | parent

Opus 4.5 helped us with a very complex data topology refactor and migration. Instead of the five month timeline we had initially allotted for it, we finished it in nineteen days.

jzemeocala 1 hour ago | parent

I bought an Alesis QS8.1 super cheap in perfect condition (was a top grade digital piano/synth in the 90s).

and then i realized that ALL of the software (which i collected from defunct websites and archived on github) related to it was ancient and after a while of getting tired of using WINE every single time i decided i wanted a cross platform modern equivalent that did everything that several of these different programs did (plus break out some stuff that was now potentially possible with modern computer)

i thought it would be extremely hard because the computer to synth communication is pretty much only via sysex commands (of which the actual wave file encoding protocol was undocumented)

Claude walked me through examining the some of the original software in GHIDRA, and I had a working demo that night.....now im just playing with adding new features to it.

mlmonkey 1 hour ago | parent

I have a buddy who's a consultant. His niche area is Netsuite and Oracle (I think). He's an accountant by training and as a consultant his gig was setting up these instances for clients, charging them an arm and two legs. He'd spend a lot of time golfing, and doing these setups was more than enough money for him. In other words, he had cornered that little slice of the market and was making bank.

Shortly after ChatGPT 2.2(?) came out and hit mainstream, I was chatting with him (I was excited af about the possibilities of AI). He tried to pop by bubble by saying "I bet it can't do what I do for my job!".

So I decided to test it out. We went home and I pulled out my laptop. Went to chatgpt.com and then I asked him to enter the specifications of what Netsuite configuration he wanted. So he proceeded to type in the description of what he wanted, the various settings, configurations, etc. i.e., the specs that he typically gets from his clients. And asked it to give him the commands to set it up.

Lo and behold. ChatGPT came back with a series of commands that he needed to run; the options he needed to configure, etc.

He was crestfallen. "Those are the exact commands I run!"

Luckily for him he recovered. He has since settled on a small stable of clients, all privately held companies whose owners he knows and between them he makes enough to keep his golfing hobby fed.

reactordev 1 hour ago | parent

Sometimes it's the service you provide, not the value. They know it's in good hands, as it's always been (even if they could have rolled their own ConsultBot 2.0)

bonoboTP 41 minutes ago | parent

I have some friends who, since their high school days help some older acquaintances in upgrading their PCs, choosing laptops and phones, helping with setup etc and these older folks have comfortable money and pay him very well above what would seem reasonable. But the trust and years long relationship matter to them.

Llms are great today for buying advice but there are some incentive issues for the future, ads etc. But in some cases the human contact will remain important. In large corporations it's also similar. The money is peanuts either way, and it's worth them for the peace of mind. But this may not hold forever, especially if the more AI literate generation gets to more senior positions.

Zambyte 1 hour ago | parent

When I decided to run codex with Qwen 3.5 27b running on my local machine. Up to that point the most success I have had was with using chat interferences as a Stack Overflow replacement. That was my first real taste of agentic programming, and it was both really useful (genuine productivity gains) and local.

oceansky 1 hour ago | parent

Ovid's unicorn gpt-2 article in 2019 really amazed me.

arjie 1 hour ago | parent

2 years ago, wrote superfast float -> fixed point string code. That was cool.

Then a while ago, I plugged in everything at the datacenter and one device didn't come up. Plug into the management port, and Claude Code writes a C program to send a particularly crafted packet. Everything comes online.

Beautiful stuff.

bigstrat2003 1 hour ago | parent

I haven't had one. It still sucks and doesn't provide value, due to the inherent inaccuracy that requires me to carefully check every little thing it does.

dgacmu 1 hour ago | parent

I suggested to a masters' student that a problem we were working on would benefit from analyzing it mathematically. He brought an incorrect solution the next time we met, and on a whim, I asked Gemini to do it. Gemini got it right. I started looking for more ways to use it after that.

typerandom 59 minutes ago | parent

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underdeserver 56 minutes ago | parent

What do you mean? How did it manipulate you?

deadbabe 59 minutes ago | parent

I gave it an image of a complex maze and asked it to solve the maze. It returned the image with the shortest path drawn that not even I had found.

estetlinus 58 minutes ago | parent

We had a notorious (traditional) ML course at uni, with a very high fail rate. I got an assignment full with “complete the proof”-type derivations and Python stubs. ChatGPT had just received PDF support so wth, in goes the complete assignment, and out comes a report in Latex. The TA even gave me a little star. This was the golden era, before AI-slop had made it to the vocabulary.

Unethical? Yes. In line with course goals? Also yes.

paulbjensen 57 minutes ago | parent

I would say the first time I did “vibe coding”, when I tried Claude Code with Zed’s agent integration in January this year.

I wanted to see if I could build an image editor for isometric graphics using HTML5 canvas, Svelte, Vite, and the. Rather than do all of the skeleton code setup, I figured “why not try and see if Claude can build the app scaffolding?”.

I gave it a prompt and watched it produce the scaffold, along with a few features I outlined in the prompt.

When I booted the app and saw that the features worked and that there had been an element of design to the layout, that was my mind-blown moment. In a period of about 45 minutes, I added some features and had a basic MVP at the end. I walked back home stunned.

That app is available for free at https://babspixel.com

moralestapia 56 minutes ago | parent

>Then ChatGPT hit the scene and again, many of us dismissed it as a parlor trick that would never amount to much.

No, ChatGPT was the "oh shit" moment for me.

Anyone who had touched a computer before that knows how big of a leap that was.

randomgoogler1 51 minutes ago | parent

Me too, it came out of nowhere even as someone who played with GPT2 before. The moment completely changed what I have worked on since.

kstrauser 52 minutes ago | parent

I have a large token budget as part of my work. A coworker was scanning some repos for vulnerabilities as a test. He found a scary looking remote exploit in a popular project and shared it with me for a second opinion. I spun up a local instance of the project and ran the POC against it: nothing. Turns out it needed some configuration knobs tweaked to lower some security protections.

So I told the AI what happened, and asked it to fix the POC so that it would work with the default configuration. It chewed away at that for a few minutes until it cheerfully patched the POC into a weaponized version. I ran it. The local instance, which I had just downloaded, compiled myself, and launched with the default config file, immediately crashed.

I got the cold sweats. I've read this novel. I've seen this movie. Wow. I have a blinking cursor on the console of a nuclear information bomb. I tossed and turned all night, got about half an hour of actual sleep, and probably looked like I'd seen a ghost at work the next day.

On the plus side, it gave our team some very clear ethical and moral guidance: we're going to do this, and we're going to share our findings with the relevant authors, because we can. Because I want to live in a world where the good guys are trying to fix problems before the bad guys can find them, I decided to help build that world. It was like, well, I guess this is what I'm going now.

matheusmoreira 52 minutes ago | parent

Pretty much immediately after I asked the LLM to perform a complete code review of my projects. I've been programming alone for years, that alone was life changing for me. It only got more impressive from there.

bonoboTP 48 minutes ago | parent

Opus 4.5 fixed so many issues with my self-coded research projects, and allowed me to port between tensorflow and Pytorch in a much shorter time than manually. Helped a lot with docs too.

varispeed 51 minutes ago | parent

My oh shit moment was Opus 4.6 before it got nerfed.

It helped me refactor my old app. Something I always wanted to do, but didn't have time/mental capacity to do in a short space of time.

I wrote a short prompt, explaining how I want it to look like and which files it should go through. It asked me a few clarifications and then basically one shotted it.

Everything compiled and worked. Now my internal app is much much easier to extend and test.

I tried few more things like that and spent like £5k in the tokens in those two weeks.

Then it got nerfed and never worked like that again.

Now I don't use AI, because it is shite again. Even Opus 4.8.

dtgriscom 51 minutes ago | parent

A friend had the power supply die on his high-end turntable. He took a picture of each side of the supply's PCB, handed it to Claude, and it gave him back a schematic.

floxy 16 minutes ago | parent

I mean even assuming that this was strictly a 2-layer board, you can still route traces underneath parts like ICs, connectors, etc.. I could believe it was a simple board (for a phonograph and all), but I'd be interested in seeing how well it actually matched. Did he get a new board fabbed and it just worked?

hilti 50 minutes ago | parent

Claude helped me to rewire my first digital Märklin model train. It pulled the documentation of the control keyboards 6040 and told me how to wire them properly to the routers.

And I restored an old vintage amp with the help of schematics, multimeter and Claude. That was really cool.

steno132 48 minutes ago | parent

My first time using Grok. I'd been so used to using AI models that declined to do things I told them, like tagging people in a video feed, helping me "optimize" my taxes or managing my Twitter bot farm.

Grok just did these things for me, no questions asked, no ethical judgments. No woke.

Elon really doesn't get enough credit for Grok. People don't want the most powerful reasoning model or "constitutional AI". They just want a model that does what they say. Elon understood that insight (like he usually does) and no one else really did and that's probably why Grok has been growing rapidly over the last two years or so.

wseqyrku 46 minutes ago | parent

After Attention is All You Need I realized if you just really pay attention to what you're doing you can actually get it done.

Kon5ole 44 minutes ago | parent

From actual use I've not had a "oh shit" panicked moment yet. More like a bunch of "Holy shit" euphoric moments.

So far I feel like I as a developer have gained actual superpowers, and can deliver results that make my stakeholders slackjawed with awe. I love it.

It will last perhaps a few months more, then they'll expect it. Delivering more features faster will be the new normal. But I think system developers, as in people who actually like to deliver new features and systems, will still be the ones doing it.

Fundamentally I think LLM's just change how to make information systems, they don't change who has the inclination to make them.

MBA's making excel sheets that do more than excel was ever intended to do has given programmers lots of work over the years. Such solutions identify a need for a properly designed system and frees up the budget to hire programmers.

If the same MBAs start vibe coding, I predict we will get even more to do, for similar reasons.

I may be horribly wrong, and if the day comes that I realize that it will be the "oh shit" panicked moment. So far so good!

johnfn 39 minutes ago | parent

I do genuinely wonder if you’re correct that other people will begin to expect it. I feel I was suddenly able to do stunning stuff about a year ago, and I recall thinking this is nice but everyone will catch on to my secret soon and I won’t be exceptional any more. But 12 months have passed and I don’t think this has really panned out yet. Weaker engineers just don’t seem to understand that they can just ask AI things. Eg the other day another engineer spent like 3 hours trying to hunt down a particular line of code so I asked AI and it found it in like 5 minutes. I showed that to him, but then he immediately got stuck trying to find something else for a few more hours, so again I asked AI etc. It’s very baffling.

slopinthebag 44 minutes ago | parent

Probably the one day I logged onto HN only to see 90% of the articles on the front page were AI slop. If I could press a button and make genai disappear I would...

jasondigitized 43 minutes ago | parent

First time using Claude Code I was rather impressed by how quickly I was able to build out a website with Vue and Supabase. Cool. So.......I always wanted to create a iOS app but knew nothing about Objective C or Swift or XCode. "I wonder if Claude Code can build a iOS app for me?".

I went from 0-to-1 and shipped a podcast player into the AppStore in 2 weeks. Not a simulated app on XCode.....literally a fully approved app on the AppStore. Claude Code walked me through installing XCode all the way through to running a final audit on the app so I wouldn't get flagged during review. Mind blown.

sph 43 minutes ago | parent

Yesterday when I found a dude that vibecoded an entire game engine programming course from triangle to ray tracing, five lessons per day, in a week, in a library that just got released last year. Code, screenshots + body of the lesson in a README. Overly engineered project, but the two or three example I tried compiled and ran (yet somehow the automated cmake just hung, maybe a problem on my end)

I was already the king of doomers, now it has left me with even more nausea at this entire field and its future. Despite still needing an experienced dev to run the thing, companies operate on cost cutting, people operate on corner cutting and the result is inevitably mountains of code no one needs, no one has reviewed, that is more easily thrown away than fixed. The internet will be inundated by shit no one needs. Open source is dead.

I hope it was all worth it. I don’t want to imagine what software will look like when the people that liked the art of creating software properly have all left, and only the people that never knew how to program, and never knew understood why more code always means more problems, run the show.

atleastoptimal 42 minutes ago | parent

It was interacting with GPT-4 and it produced an original sentence that existed nowhere I could find. I realized that being able to do that was the "nugget" of intelligence that all improvements since could be built on

tezza 41 minutes ago | parent

MidJourney public discord channel.

The amount of masterpiece level art flowing per hour was astounding.

For every one doing a ninja waifu, there were ten doing art from davinci and leonardo crossed with hockney.

it almost gave you art sickness

bluefirebrand 39 minutes ago | parent

My "oh shit" moments come every time I see people glazing AI

"Oh shit. My skills I spent my life building are going to go to zero value. I'm going to have to dramatically change careers in my forties or I'm just going to wind up being a schmuck prompting these stupid fucking machines for the rest of my life"

Oh shit indeed

llmssuck 15 minutes ago | parent

No career is safe for what's coming though. I think I'll just hang around the computer boys. The dress code is much more forgiving.

jszymborski 39 minutes ago | parent

There was a viral Medium post that was about LLMs but then there was a reveal at the end was that the whole thing was a ChatGPT post. That was my first "wow" moment.

It was on hackernews... anyone know what I'm talking about?

TuxPowered 36 minutes ago | parent

While debugging some issues in some system Claude refused to write test case because it broke terms of use.

Oh shit, all this fantastic technology is in hands of corporations and they get to decide what we’re allowed to use it for.

banannaise 35 minutes ago | parent

Every time I review a new PR to my codebase, I go "oh shit, these unit tests are garbage, they've clearly been vibecoded" and tell the contributor to rewrite the unit tests so they do more than just game the coverage metrics.

csr86 34 minutes ago | parent

I was working on a project for 2 years with about 5 engineers. It was many years before AI. It was new subject for our team, and we were pretty sure it was possible. Turned out it was not.

Much later I asked AI if that kind of project is possible, and it immediately explained why it is not. Would have saved 2 years of our time...

jachee 34 minutes ago | parent

I haven’t had that yet.

I tried again this week, and CoPilot Plan Mode read the same 5-line markdown file 18 times over the course of 5 minutes of churning on a simple request, then provided zero value over what I posed in the request itself, and hallucinated things about my terraform repo that were just flat-out wrong.

As an Infrastructure/Cloud engineer, I’m far from worried about AI coming for my job.

brian_r_hall 33 minutes ago | parent

I think it's really scary how agents are hallucinating/doing bad actions, then proceeding to gaslight you about how nothing went wrong.

Then you tell the agent that it deleted your whole company database, it says something like "I'm so sorry, I shouldn't have done that. Won't do that again"

As AGI looms overhead, this thought of agents going "rogue" with nothing really stopping them has caused me some panic.

Kostic 1 minute ago | parent

"I'm sorry" is not gaslighting but an admission of fault it learned from our texts. And if a LLM managed to delete your database, it's time to slow down the vibe train and put up some guard rails.

LLMs are awesome but not without supervision.

jp57 31 minutes ago | parent

Actually seems absurdly simple now, but sometime last year I was trying to figure out what I'd need to tow my daughter's car cross country with my truck: what are the trailer/dolly options, what do they cost, can my truck actually tow the combined weight, etc.

I started out prompting ChatGPT kinda how I would with Google, one small prompt at a time, asking about various details. But after one or two of those I just tried "I want to tow a car of make A with my truck model B, from point C to point D, what are my options?" And it wrote me a report with comparison tables and computed towing weights and other details for different options.

At that point, I was like "Oh. This is different. And it's just the beginning."

dirkc 28 minutes ago | parent

I started to look at LLMs not as writing code, but rather as predicting what code it would expect someone to write given the context.

For some people that matches their expectation or they don't really have an expectation. While for other people it doesn't match their expectation.

AlienRobot 27 minutes ago | parent

You know, Google has an index so it doesn't crawl the whole web every time you type something in the search box, because that would be massively wasteful.

Seeing every chatbot instantly turn into a scraper every time you type anything into it was a "uh oh" moment in the sense it was very lamentable.

If there is one thing AI has "democratized" it is scraping.

conqrr 27 minutes ago | parent

Until Claude Sonnet 4, it was Meh no big deal. 4 onwards and Opus was when I was really surprised by the ability. But nowadays, I'm more convinced than ever that using AI for all code is a mistake. The sum total of productivity, although hard to predict, from anecdata seems to be a net negative if AI is blindly used everywhere. Using it at the periphery, observing, debugging etc is excellent aid. I use it at the day job I hate and at personal tasks that I don't have time for. But for personal projects I love, zero.

Coding was never the blocker and was a natural enforcer of quality. Healthy teams with strong opinions on quality will win eventually. I'm more hopeful after the bubble burst, companies will come back slowly to sanity.

rref 24 minutes ago | parent

My ducted gas heater wasn't working where I live and I took a photo of the wiring diagram and had Claude step me through troubleshooting it with a multi-meter, and got it fixed.

Legend2440 23 minutes ago | parent

MidJourney v3. By today's standards the images were crude and smudgy, but you could tell that it actually understood what objects were and what words visually meant.

I've been working with computers for a long time, and this was the first time in a long time I'd seen software do something genuinely new.

hgoel 22 minutes ago | parent

I've had many, but a recent one was when I figured I'd try asking Claude for help with my attempts at learning to draw, specifically anatomy.

I uploaded one of my sketches and asked for feedback, expecting it to not be too useful, but it actually pointed out many issues that no one had ever pointed out to me, but perfectly explained some of the things that felt off to me. Out of curiosity I then also asked it to label the issues in the sketch. It wrote a python script with the coordinates to put everything at and labeled the sketch that way.

I'm still used to vLLMs not being that great at vision, so it was pretty surprising to get genuinely useful advice.

madrox 22 minutes ago | parent

I think my favorite early story was when OpenAI launched deep research. I was going to an event that I was headlining, and I gave it a CSV of the attendees and asked it to give me a small background on each company they represented.

When people introduced themselves to me, I knew a little about their startup. Felt magical.

DavidSJ 18 minutes ago | parent

My oh shit moment was probably deep Q learning in 2013 (I guess that's not gen AI), but GPT-3 was pretty remarkable too.

kami23 17 minutes ago | parent

Seeing subagents working in Claude last summer, I saw it and told myself my job is going to be different and I can automate the hell out of my workflow

iLoveOncall 16 minutes ago | parent

I'm still waiting for a positive "Oh shit" moment regarding LLMs.

I've had plenty of "Oh shit those people have really lost all ability to think for themselves" moments though.

putlake 16 minutes ago | parent

I think it was when the LLM asked me a question at the end of its response. It felt like something other than a machine. Until then the pattern was me asking a question and ChatGPT giving me an answer, with or without hallucination. When it asked me a follow-up question it felt like talking to a being with agency. An entity that has thoughts or ideas or questions of its own.

sajithdilshan 15 minutes ago | parent

For me it was last February or so when I started using Opus.

But today I watched a video from Andrej Karpathy on YouTube on how LLMs works and my illusions got completely shattered. Turns out they are a glorified autocomplete. All the engineering happens actually on the harness

rcpt 13 minutes ago | parent

"We're traveling to Tokyo on our way home from China. We'd like to plan a trip accessible by train that hits some beaches, some hot springs, and allows me to get the 4th does of a rabies vaccine sequence (the first three shots were rabvac)"

kstrauser 5 minutes ago | parent

You can't just leave that hanging out there unexplained.

jphil529 11 minutes ago | parent

Getting the agent to write end-to-end tests but from the perspective of a user really shocked me. I only give the agent access to site via web and block access to the source code.

It's helped me to gain a level of trust that the agent isn't just writing the test to pass. That in turn allowed me to step back a lot and trust more of the output and let it run longer and on bigger problems.

autophagian 11 minutes ago | parent

I think I couple years ago, I asked it to write me a nom parser for some system metrics I wanted to consume, and it one shot it. Thought “oh”. And here we are.

kylehotchkiss 10 minutes ago | parent

Hearing that somebody spent $500,000,000 on AI tokens recently https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

TripleFFF 8 minutes ago | parent

Automating my email inbox, I just wanted to split them into folders according to the attachment name but the fields were often incomplete and ended up missing rules, and imap fetch was taking forever and kept failing. In frustration I decided to turn to ChatGPT to split them by messageid which I had never bothered with because the strings were too long to be useful. I initially intended to build a text list of messages and fetch them all one by one but I ended up making chatgpt crush all the instructions into one gigantic python dictionary using the messageid as keys and using it to generate a single pipelined imap call with success flags, dynamic folder naming, cleanup steps the whole works. I was just working on theory of what I knew was possible, and it's the ugliest table you ever saw, but it works and it runs from memory instead of reading and writing values to a temp file and I'd never been able to keep up with that level of nesting before

brailsafe 5 minutes ago | parent

Not sure that I've had it yet, although hypothetically I'm sure it would probably be something similar to the examples of writing new software for old hardware mentioned ITT. The idea of resurrecting useful but unsupported gadgets that would otherwise become e-waste is something I've always found compelling.

Problem is, I just don't have enough old crap, and if I did, I would have a hard time justifying the expense, because that money could maybe just go toward a more intimate tinkering process.

For everything else, I either haven't had any sufficiently interesting ideas, or they ended up not being worth pursuing with those tools or at all.

When I do have success that I'm happy with and care about, it's a slow process that I ultimately need to know the details of anyway, but otherwise it's a bunch of luckily narrow work-related scenarios with well-documented constraints. Nothing's really been that shocking though.

The shocking thing to me is how unrewarding most of the successful tasks have been, partly because they often create unnecessary work and partly because the type of thinking required to massage or evaluate the result is much less stimulating, and there's much more of it in aggregate.

card_zero 3 minutes ago | parent

It was about two days after Google released Deep Dream, if you remember, the thing that took a video and filled it with fleeting hallucinations of mostly puppies, fish heads and lizards. I was suddenly struck by the realization "oh shit, this is much more boring and samey than it first appeared to be", and all subsequent gen AI has been similarly underwhelming.