29 points walrus01 1 hour ago 24 comments

This is on the front page right now: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/salespatriot/jobs/M46X6YX-forward-deployed-engineer

Some notable things:

a. Go. Fly out and plant yourself inside the customer's operation. Weekdays are onsite (Wisconsin, New York, Miami, Los Angeles); weekends we regroup at the SF HQ to debrief and keep building.

Sounds like a 7 day work week to me.

b. Absolute grinder. Interested in co-living (though not required). Comfortable with ambiguity and rapid change.

You're expected to work 7 days a week and completely blur the line between personal and professional life by "co-living"? What kind of person wrote this?

walrus01 1 hour ago | parent

Adding URL here in a comment to make it clickable

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/salespatriot/jobs/M46X...

andsoitis 1 hour ago | parent

Yes and? If this is not appealing to you, don't apply. But for some the travel and being at different customer sites is energizing and fun.

walrus01 1 hour ago | parent

I don't know if I'd really define "some" travel as flying SF to NYC (or SF to Miami, or Wisconsin) every sunday afternoon/evening, and then flying NYC to SF every Friday evening. That meets a definition more like "constant" to me rather than "some".

duskwuff 46 minutes ago | parent

Don't forget that you're flying NYC to SF to "regroup at the SF HQ to debrief and keep building". What, you thought you got the weekend off? Rise and grind.

browningstreet 28 minutes ago | parent

It shouldn’t even be legal.

eqvinox 17 minutes ago | parent

It isn't, in a bunch of other countries.

edot 1 hour ago | parent

I mean, for 0.15-0.20% and a top end salary of $200k living in SF that sounds like a great opportunity!

kaikai 1 hour ago | parent

Don’t get me wrong, $200k is a lot of money, but it’s not a top end tech salary in SF.

steve_adams_86 11 minutes ago | parent

It’s quite poor given that you don’t get to have a life outside of work, too. I’d start to think that sounds great if it was a 4 day work week, but 7… Bizarre.

gedy 1 hour ago | parent

Are you serious? That's not much to be able to live there. And for the top end no less?

walrus01 58 minutes ago | parent

200k in SF with CA income taxes and SF cost of living is not that much at all. It's low enough that "No, you can't ever hope to afford to buy a home or get a mortgage in the city of your legal residence" is a flat out fact.

duskwuff 47 minutes ago | parent

Good news / bad news: employees are also expected to "co-live in our Warsaw & SF Hacker Houses" (i.e. corporate frat house).

Not quite sure how they get "teams of 20" living in those houses with a total company size of 15, though.

walrus01 43 minutes ago | parent

Maybe they have some ex US Navy submariners that have introduced the concept of hot bunking.

altairprime 1 hour ago | parent

Yes, they explicitly brag about this in their LinkedIn feed:

(1 month ago) https://www.linkedin.com/posts/salespatriot_forward-deployed...

> Forward Deployed Engineers in the wild. We said "go relax." They brought their laptops onto a duck float. Because when you're helping customers manage supplier communications semi-autonomously and speed up America's defense industrial base, "break" is a relative term. This is the energy.

(I don’t make a habit of checking that site but happy to make an exception to answer this post’s ‘did I interpret correctly?’.)

kaikai 1 hour ago | parent

I got a recruiting email recently for a job that had 5 days onsite, but SATURDAY was work from home, listed like it was a perk.

It’s wild out there.

horticulturist 1 hour ago | parent

Seems more like a cult than a job. Hopefully the equity is like… a lot.

newsomix9xl 49 minutes ago | parent

You get to work from home two days a week: Saturday and Sunday.

walrus01 40 minutes ago | parent

But also a good portion of every Sunday is going to be flying coach all the way across the continent to NYC or Miami, because you're expected to be on-site at the customer premises at 8am every Monday! You'd better be sure to get some work done on that flight or the company leadership will notice.

ofjcihen 36 minutes ago | parent

The founders look like they can’t be out of their early-mid 20’s… this stinks of a frat-house 3 AM convo that made it to the next morning.

vetrom 21 minutes ago | parent

The being expected to fly around the country weekly in conjunction with 'this is not a remote position' is pretty wild.

hackable_sand 7 minutes ago | parent

Saw this too.

Their name is Sales Patriot, hiring a "FDE", and they are funded by YC.

That should be enough information by itself.

toomuchtodo 3 minutes ago | parent

Is this legal under California labor law?